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On Thursday December 7 and at about 10PM I came across that openSUSE 10.2 was released and I am very Ubuntu-Debian was not aware, which meant that my newly downloaded isos of SUSE Linux 10.1 were no longer as precious ... at least I had not come to CD (though it does not matter because the CDs are very cheap at only $ 500.oo COP unit, that in dollars is almost nothing ).

And if the matter is that it was considering changing linux distro, the reason is very simple, lately I have less time to walk as before addressing issues that are the distros that I commonly use, bone debian and derivatives (like Ubuntu), Ubuntu Dapper good but was a breakthrough in terms of usability and edgy do not really like me, I saw "change" as well as things that confused me at first sight and simply chose to take a step behind and go back to Dapper.

Download the iso image version 10.2 took me about 3 days because the repos were packed, and at the end the images were corrupt (or so said the MD5 hash) and preferred to keep things simple fix and download the torrent file and I put to download in the same place where I had the initial images so that recognized and downloaded a 20 meg lost, the MD5 sum check everything was correct.

Installation was quite simple, that if I take several hours to start the installation until I set the whole system (around 6 hours).

The issue is complicated configurations knew very nearly as small (and not so small) differences between openSUSE and Debian.

With regard to user settings and so I did not have much to rescue only my personal documents, the configurations of evolution, gaim, firefox, skype and my notes in tomboy also wanted to try as a desktop openSUSE by default and chose to copy my little things to the new user folder.

back to evolution just did this:
gconftool-2 -
shutdown evolution - force-shutdown
cd $ HOME tar
cjvf $ DIRCOPIA/evolution-backup.tar.bz2 - -exclude =. evolution / mail / imap. .gnome2_private/Evolution evolution
gconftool-2 - dump / apps / evolution> evolution_setting.xml

same
Gaim to copy cd $ HOME tar
- $ cjvf DIRCOPIA/gaim-backup.tar.bz2.

gaim and mozilla:
MOZHOME = "my staff mozilla dir"
mkdir-p $ DIRCOPIA / MozBackup
MOZHOME $ cd & & cp {signons.txt, key3.db, hostperm.1, cookies.txt, bookmarks.html} $ DIRCOPIA / MozBackup

good in the end it was only and to restore the entire evolution, which also extract the tar gconf should be informed of the setting we have.
gconftool-2 -
shutdown evolution - force-shutdown $ cd
DIRCOPIA
xjvf evolution-backup.tar.bz2 tar-C $ HOME /
gconftool-2 - unload evolution_setting . xml
gconftool-2 - load evolution_setting.xml

With that he was ready (in addition to about 30 things that certainly not interested in none).

was simply install additional software as I download the image NON-OSS as I was.

Use the same software in Ubuntu to do things was no problem, except for totem-xine that as far as I can see "no such package in openSUSE" so as always I'll stick with mplayer, but so far not been so easy, but after installing smart case of repos and additional software was solved, to manage the music I never liked the Rhythmbox (and thankfully does not bring openSUSE by default) and the banshee but never managed to do it attractive work properly but I install the Helix ™ Banshee and everything works perfect desktop system is to say the least spectacular, nothing ever was so easy, openoffice.org is installed and thesaurus and completely in English, is a fully polished desktop and device recognition has no complaints, even my card encore: -s Sundance Technology is recognized the first thing which has never happened to me, if I had to recompile the module with sources sundance manufacturer, printer and scanner, all without complications, it is true, an installation of ubuntu making 15 minutes, but ... 1 ª

has none of the tools I use every day and settle the issue of multimedia codec is the same as in openSUSE "you to install it apart "
2 nd configuration post installation I deal in just 2 minutes, but because I have a series of script that I made it annoying to set up everything every time you reinstall, now, those script do it all for me (now I will do same for openSUSE:-D).
3 rd I was never able to run well the printer and scanner NEVER be moved with the installation of Ubuntu.
Single
detail against that very QT yast2 "ssssssssss ....... .... and very slow, for others it is a wonder, but I have understood that there is a project to carry all yast2 to gtk2 and just finished writing I'll look to see that.
Another thing against it are the daily cron too many pre-configured tasks and interrupt real work "so delete them all.
By default, the beagle starts with each user session is a great tool but not need it for almost nothing and it seems a waste of machine resources and the zen-updater, which I prefer that sort of thing done manually, but then removal from the home environment is amazingly fast.

In conclusion I have to say that openSUSE is an incredibly well-organized distribution, software highly polished and properly configured, the space used by the entire plant reaches about 4.4 GB and monodevelop having gnome installed (and a couple of more herramientillas ) but compared with Installing any other desktop OS is quite modest, is dazzling visual style and ease of use left me without words, is the easiest Linux distribution to use I've ever tested and because they say, is the best Linux distribution I've tried (and I've tried many distros:-D).

From now on only recommend openSUSE Linux as a desktop distribution.
still need more time to test how it behaves in the server (although I will not install on any production system, not yet )

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Oracle launched its Unbreakable Linux (Unbreakable Linux) and responds with RedHat Linux is unforgeable his! (Unfakable RedHat Linux), and not be hungry for more, Novell partners with Microsoft in a strategic move for the first time where the most used operating system in the world opens up a field and recommend Linux as a viable option (of course for now, only the bone Novell Suse Linux) all that and nothing I decided to write a post, but what about the monkeys and coffee these days is something I see much more hot and I could not simply resist.

Just a few hours ago to release Java as GPLv2, you can see the press release: http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jsp good, with so resounding that disappears Stallman java trap and have a subject less to criticize in his speeches (and I assume also stop the development of GNU Classpath, to do so is a bit silly waste of effort).

But that's not all mono version 1.2 is already Release! http://www.mono-project.com/news/archive/2006/Nov-09.html definitely in two weeks so I think there are more big news of late for the world of Open Source.

Now, wow! that changing world, but ... What's the matter? Why all this fuss? What's behind all this?

First, decide which free java java something the community is crying out for long your license yet remained unchanged for 10 years, why release it now?. The answer to this question is not simple and believe me I am sure that Sun refused Microsoft's influence in this decision.

My theory is that. Net made its way where java could not enter or even exploit its full potential. Net is language logo to C #, a language as powerful as java, but somewhat easier to learn, but . Net has some advantages over Java and the number one is that you can write in many languages \u200b\u200band all are exposed to the cylinder that does not force you to learn C #, you can easily keep writing python or better yet, a couple refine detail and learn boo, although the option for others it will continue to use VB with improvements (VB.NET). But Microsoft's move was not enough to shake the Sun, as is java environments. Net could not dream it, Linux, Unix, Mac and not to talk about architecture, and this is where to play monkey, a free implementation. Net developed by Ximian company that was acquired by Novell and led the platform. Net far beyond what was expected, now running 32-bit platforms: x86, PowerPC, ARM, s390, and SPARC, obviously also in the 64-bit: x86-64, s390x and Itanium (IA64), supporting Linux operating systems, Windows, BSD and MacOS (although can be seen in detail in: http://www.mono-project.com/Supported_Platforms)

Well, for those who follow the monkey is nothing new that the mono version was a bit late, for these dates v2.0 expected, however we stayed in 1.1.13, so far from the desired goal, as we discuss Novell and Microsoft have now an agreement, which did not say is that this is a non-aggression pact their patents, this seems to have stimulated the development of mono, which only a few days of signing the treaty has released version 1.2 with impressive improvements (http://www.go-mono.com/archive/1.2/ not some people can not say that monkey takes advantage. Net).

If you look at the dates, Microsoft Novell agreement, out of the monkey V1.2 evidence was strong support for the mono team to know that the echo will not be sued for patent abuse, now, when analyzing the Output of java as GPL (only 4 days after the monkey is Release) have accepted that. Net is a true rival to the time for users to select platform.

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In gnome I've always echo managers lack multimedia Belly full and I'll managers of music, if, indeed, many gnomeros (extremists) tell me that music is rhythmbox, or use banshees, ok, my answer is no, rhythmbox is for me a nasty toy (toy not because it is bad software, but because I play with my PC:-D) and banshees, well, it is only useful if you take the time to compile both plugin you need, on the other hand is always you using kde in gnome (:~$) software so I was using (secretly) amarok and k3b (which has no decent replacement gnome and accept no cons!) but I really disliked the idea and, well, I go to use xmms, just like old times, but that it is something old to meet current needs (is that I'm more pretentious and want to see the letter song and the cover of the cd and stuff, but without installing anything extra.)

the end I left with Songbird, a software written in XUL and (obviously) with mozilla as the engine, very nice and fully functional, but ... consume vast amounts of resources on the machine, so that each who was playing with a vmware image, simply had to stop the music. All this until I came across Exaile, a software clone of amarok, but with gtk background (and not the QT:-D) because it download and install, I played with him, in about 15 minutes to download over of 1500 coverage of cds and without my noticing, and not to mention the consumption of resources, barely noticeable when it starts and is fully functional.

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a little matter of the publications in the network (and publications in general) is difficult to encounter truly original content articles ... (My blog is a clear example of this), despite that there is an interesting number of original articles that make a difference.

Well, I will save the chatter, the creativecommons is an interesting (and intelligent solution) to the problem of post licensing under X, Y or Z contents, but one has to do each thing, eg this article (and many others but not worth making a list, neither want to take on linuxparatodos that are helpful to the community and simply made it clear that I put the article as an example because my news reader upgrade and I happened to read, I mean, is the article I had in front) who is licensed creativecommons 2.1 which prevents the reproduction of the writing there for commercial purposes but it turns out in this article do not find anything, but absolutely nothing new, nothing that you are not seeing the first time you took a book of * nix in your hands, and criticism is:

Damn, that gives us right limit the use or disclosure of information with commercial purposes, when we publish is not a new science or anything, but it is just a summary of public absolutely know that repeat in a thousand ways in various howtos and in my opinion (then do not say stupid things) can be used as we Plasco.

In short: More careful what you write and attributes that we take to license.

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gnome ftp.

not really much to say on this subject, only meant to illustrate a little story ...

and starts for about 5 years old when first used ftp protocol, that was my first step in the Linux world, before that was just a windows user who knew nothing other than explorer and iexplorer.

Well, I needed to download the first Linux distro that I knew and that was redhat, but as I knew nothing about iso files or anything of these, then I'll lose rpm rpm (without knowing it was that really) and from a msdos window (because I found a howto and was the only example explained).

that was rather complicated (it was very fish) and good, I came across a program to transfer the WS_FTP ftp windows and clear, then I downloaded the pro version (I was a bit daring and gave them that could crack any baaaaaaaaa windows program), so I got used to using it until I complete my transition to Linux, well, the matter is that Linux always used the gftp-gtk, because it has an interface very similar to WS_FTP, but these days and had to traginar with many files in multiple hosting, download, upload and delete, the same thing over and over again, an average of 18,000 files a day, that the truth is complicated by the gftp-gtk, because when it does not hang, it just explodes and does not notify anything (uurrgggg) so I was about to go mad, did not know which hosting already had all the files and which was halfway, a very tiresome.

The solution because I had the fabulous idea to install the kbear, a teddy kde for ftp transfers and Uala, does the same pod (although each is hanging a whistle sounds typical kde applications) so the kbear Nor was any good solution, look for my cd's old, found that of winxp, I put to download WS_FTP when they find a little old to install HD is when .... I thought
using nautilus (the last time you use it for ftp hung horrible, now I'm using ubuntu dapper with nautilus 2.14.3)
Because I had not happened before!

nautilus is great, no crashes, no one dies, it works with multiple servers and you can copy from one server to another without noticing it, is ultimately the best, so I uninstall the annoying kbear and all its dependencies and I stay with nautilus (I also delete the downloaded WS_FTP had already :-)

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short days ...

endless sounds resonate,
but I can not understand, they are not

or where they come
among them are words
only sound, but can not hear
talk to them, but I do not listen
I can not hear sounds

remain in that boat not want to lose

wet
fear not understand why
speak and
talks are right but do not drop

is immense, so
fear but fear getting wet
resonate
water and I do not know

there is also a silent voice that
not silent and not be silent, I do not want
I do not want to silence

street will not be silent but I fear
street I want to hear, I still can not hear

is not upset, I got used to it
not
says
not understand the strange thing is that I like but can not understand

says
not hear sounds I never said I interpret
the clouds
but different
me and I know not but I said
if


and there is sweet music gives me life
not dance, afraid to offend
give all his magic and gave me life

gives everything
day after day I'm afraid to offend

dance but can not find


only see his shadow in the shade of the moment I can not wait


want to see what happens but it is only a reflection
I am used to understand reflexes I guess I always interpret

but
life and do not understand


is unclear but
nightfall nightfall and get to remember
remember a past
is beautiful, a beautiful last
I prefer to remember the future
the future of a time
forgotten the result of being here
right here, without my
and no one else only the sound


today I see silhouettes as night falls all
improvement is not yet noon
all have a night for some get very
Quick
hope that my day is long
much I want to do
hope, I hope ...
I still hope that I do not want my night
night falls but year
after year it gets dark
and still do not understand

now understand, I understand ...
is like having sand
before nightfall I understand
or is a day lost

and then ...
do not know, not yet anyone who remembers the end of the day
is that nobody knows what happens after nightfall

much to do and it is noon
wait ... I do not know, it's late and still want to understand

lost my watch and I prefer
truth and not count the hours and enjoy it

she is here with me and the sounds sound


the sky is still blue
and the boat is not
went
I have fear, but he made me remember

like to remember the future and I remember I learned to swim and I no longer fear

is to be late, no more boats
it take to do
but it is my only means and I go swimming

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This really is a forgotten memory.

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Jaime

be true "?

Well then provide 16 cd `s from debian sarge (my only cd's of debian) and 2 weeks of waiting ...

'm in a mini home remodeling, painting, removal of nitrate and stuff, so when James handed me the cd's I had no time to review, so keep the best Instead I found a cardboard box hard and well today and I am organizing everything and huaa! the box only had a little dirt, but nothing annoying or damage the cd's and get them out and keep them in a drum for CDs and what a surprise, 3 games, single use can be copied to disk and others (including boot) all scratched and unusable.

That teaches me NOT PAY NOTHING!
Thanks jax. : @

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debian ... Business

Today I read on Slashdot this article, and therefore the root of it and I have nothing more to say again that it is complete rubbish, I do not usually do this kind of comments, but truth is I got bored reading that this debian, debian

that ... For those who have not yet understood, debian is not a common software distribution, multi-distribution is huge, if true, there are some tasks (tasks of installation) defined that you install some packages but do not have it stick to them, you can make simple changes to package selection and good, you can see the case of ubuntu, many argue ubuntu, debian does it say easy, but tell me which package in ubuntu not present in debian, so yes, there are numerous packages in debian and ubuntu hint (although I am user of ubuntu) the issue is making, is a question package selection, some of us get lazy and just did not give us the task of looking at tasks and to change or choose a list of packages and do a $ cat
lista_de_paquetes play "or with false expectations, regardless of the capital needed to maintain or a clear business model, there are success stories, ubuntu at the helm, no capital and a company behind them, with a defined strategy, followed projects like mepis, lispire, progeny, Sandra and many others that I can not remember, in addition to that LinEX not exactly a business, is more a social project, but to say that debian is not for the company did not make any sense, So just what can you tell if you do not know the project, well I'm not far from debian developer but I know the project is at this moment I am a distro maintainer is still "toy." Debian

a community, an ideology not a business model that are responsible users and entrepreneurs, debian will fit in anywhere, the packages are "generic" (no other word I can think of now) without a lot of customizations that needed for convert the package to a debian package.

now say that companies believe they can manage the project is not clear who is doing business on free software, is precisely to give an addition to what is, for example, are strong lispire user customizations which are in skel, that and a few packages that are not in debian, that makes a difference and gives you an advantage a reason to be preferred and is this way you can charge.

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One of the most important things for a company these days is to have quality certification, we certify our processes, "said a member of the board.

If that's true, I think we should look like the item, another partner commented
If you as a board are absolutely right. Replied the manager.

And so began a complex but straightforward task within the company.

's hire a consultant, it should come first. So to call a counselor, who you know, ask the manager,
well ... ... After a few laps contract to the guy, but ...

... ...
... ...

That happened to it? Ask the manager a nuisance to staff.

has not answered any one dared to advance employee But so what? To hire this guy, you give us the documentation!
Hello sir, hello sir manager.

Hello. Look, we need to advance this, we need to get out of the ISO, the board asked us and that nothing comes out.

But ... responsibility is not mine, it's been 4 months since working with you and even if they insist neither you nor your staff are dedicated to do what they have to do ...

I will pass on some models I have and you adapt them to his own.
...
It's been some time since we started the issue of certification has not yet made any progress! This is incredible!.

But, but ... What happens is that we need more staff.
If manager mentions that the Lord is completely true, it's one of the things that makes it clear the rule is that management must allocate resources necessary to advance the process.
adopted, it will hire someone to devote to it.
... ... ...
...

But, but how, because going to resign?, But only 4 months have gone well, but I need to make a full report of the current management system. Please call the secretary. Look

need a new professional in the area of \u200b\u200bquality, and that

? , what happens is that the lord can not join us and well, no more no more about the topic, find someone opens a call. Nice Engineer I regret to inform that no one will do the induction, but it is simple, here is the report of the former engineer and other issues should be easy for you.

... ... ...

You also are we doing?

Know someone who recommend?
course, I have a friend with more than one year of experience in this area
Ok, llamamelo and please stay until the end of induction
... engineer No, we are not able to make this increase

Ok, if that is what they will pay I can not blame him for leaving us.
can recommend someone?

And this is the sad story of some companies still do not realize how important it is to provide guarantees to give continuity to a process as important as the lifting of a QMS system (quality management) that it is a different thing to a minimum level of organization that a company must have to succeed in their field.
is not only cold and gross exploitation of a professional quality, and not to yield to unreasonable demands from this, it is (at least in this case) understand that if 3 professionals have left your facility for any errors should be making.


And another thing altogether to delegate planning tasks in a single individual. For the efficient implementation of a QMS each of the persons involved should be clear that is involved in the system and without their participation the process is doomed to failure, as well as the education level of staff is a critical factor if the staff located on a technical level, it had better reduce the complexity of the tasks, an easy way to accomplish this task is through the automation of the same with the use of specialized software, where the greater complexity of the tasks is to enter data and request reports, and thereby to implement the system by solving real problems, other than a simple and terrible bureaucratization of the system and make it more and more full of tasks and checkpoints unmanageable, no, the real intention (and far beyond that of a certification) is to optimize the tasks and that the QMS is fully integrated to the organization and, well, I have lazy, I go to sleep ...

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Continuing with the idea. Net

Well, although I do not favor the use of java, but only by their semantics (and other nuisances and mental Birdbrain) architecture not because I consider really bad, it's more the concept is very good (though exaggerated) , and I would think the business model that has kept a good balance SUN ...

But some believe that SUN do not stop until 100% free java code will not be a true and complete tool for the open source world

More here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/
2006/05/msg00086.html But let's be clear: I do not agree to have it removed from the Non-Free.

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Heh, heh, heh ...

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What defines me ... What is the mess

I never liked having the title of my career before my name, it seems a bit silly to change the way people recognize me, or has been used to call me just because I've graduated now engineer.

For example, in my previous job, all commonly referred engineer, engineer hello, good morning engineer as the engineer, switch engineer and a great etc ... That had me mom, so I started to say, no, calm my name is johnny, johnny call me, no problem, until one day the plant manager has caught the issue and was upset, I said nothing, but the thing became a bad temper, reproachful looks and things like that ...
But ... defines me?
The truth I'm sure one thing to study for only 5 years does not define me, I'm sure that if, see, because nobody told me before, hello bachelor, senor bachelor happens if a bachelor, as you say high school ... heh, heh, heh ... the thing sounds funny, but true ... Well I
my life as a child of my mother and nobody says hello son of thy mother, is the son of your mother ...
I have studied is just a beautiful accident in my life, right at this moment I come to mind a memory, one of those things that I would like not to have witnessed, but I'm glad I repeat, never seen ...
I met a guy who now works at the U of Magdalena as head of something (do not say so it is not easy to identify the whip) and I met him just before he finished his career as a civil ing, was a man chevere half, but arrogant, a mile away you could see what is believed ...
but with all that was of those who say, hey that more queer? we'll fuck or what? but suddenly now nosequevaina chief and one of my teammates call her by her first name and this type is raised as to upset as if his name was a mind of breast and said: Tell me engineer, though it cost a bit more engineer call me that I jodi leather for you to come and treat me well, do not be matched ... I do not really left many comments for such an attitude. That moment

reinforced my idea of \u200b\u200b"Do not put anything in front of my name" my name is johnny, is more my friends call me or johnnydc jdc, td so well, a career does not define me, or did you tell the mechanic : Hello Mr. Mechanical Mr. pass mechanical ... and I can assure you that many mechanics are very professional in their work and not why they have lost the name.

But all these ... I have not yet defined ...
I think, is not an easy task ... more bien complicado, a ver:

soy un hombre callado, pero hablo mucho, no soy para nada modesto, me gusta disfrutarme a la gente, me gusta aprender de lo que dicen, de sus palabras, siempre tengo una sonrisa, pero cuando me malgenio de verdad que me malgenio, un día que no me enorgullece rompí un horno de pizza y dos vitrinas, todo por romperle la cara a un pendejo que le metio una cachetada a mi hermana, carajo que tunda la que se llevo, incluso una sacada de brazo, no me gusta verme de mal genio, no me se controlar, por eso siempre prefiero estar de buen jenio y cogerla suave...
Amo a mi madre, Ame a mi padre y aún amo su recuerdo, me considero como una esponja, pero soy selectivo con lo que absorbo del exterior. Amo my sisters and I malgeniaría with anyone who hurt.

I love my partner, is a very sweet woman and I like to see her smile, spend hours watching it, it is lovely to me.
I like sunsets, but sunrises I get lazy, although they are very beautiful I have seen many, but evenings if a child, I like watching the sky, I like when pulling red to orange or orange red fucking , is divine and Santa Marta is always more beautiful sunset.


I like to sleep in

h hammock, I like to sleep with the sound of the sea when I'm by the sea and it is night, the sound lulls me, I sleep and insomnia disappears, the night happened in the Tayrona park are very sweet to me, because I hear the sea breeze and I like ... I also love my friends, although I have overcome fears and tensions, and I do not stick to strange people or so, I think I learned to live with me is that I learned to like my company, down like that people who can not be 2 hours alone at home because Soyan to call anyone who knows the phone call all your friends, I think it's because they are supported, I do not know how to live with themselves and I really happening, but I like to know.
also pleased to meet me, good or bad every person I pass my life and it touched my soul always good, always a sweet memory for a moment you never expect ...

But all these, which I think really defines me is that I am a human being who loves his family and amuse or annoy me simple things, such that no note, my friends say I'm weird just because we do not bother the same things I do not think I'm weird, I'm just across the same thing and I like that, I enjoy learning, seeing new things and get bored easily, but back, I always come back ...

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Some coastal have certain little words in our common coarse cloth, but who says they're mla

these or misused?

For example, "peel"

We use it for many things, especially


in moments of anger, who

not that phrases like

That is the peel!?
Dame this peel! Huy
hueputa peel!
And that little phrase led me to a


discussion with my beautiful mother, I was asking a silver my sister, silver out of my wallet ...

and one escaped me: Give me the peel!

Heh, heh, heh ...

As might be expected

mom was upset and it took me looking for a dictionary of the SAR and I run into this definition:

MONDA

1. action and effect of peeling.

2. Weather for the clean

trees. 3. Husk or fruit peelings and other things. U. m. pl.
4. Exhumation done in a cemetery at the appointed time, leading human remains to the grave or ossuary.
5. Exhumation of bones detiempo time was done in the parishes of Madrid, when were buried in them to
s faithful departed. Well
looking peeling ...

paring 1. Cleanse or purify something removing superfluous or strange mixed with it.
2. Clean the bed of a river, canal or ditch.
3. Trimming, pruning.
4. Remove the fruit peel, bark or skin to the tubers, or pod to vegetables.
5. Cut someone's hair.
6. Repeated throat clearing or coughing to clear the chest or throat of mucus before speak or sing.
7. coloq. Remove
someone what you have, especially money. 8.
coloq. Whipping, beating. 9. prnl.
coloq. coloq.
If there was, someone take the money ... ie the phrase: Give me the peel, although a bit malformed is correct ... :-) And I was (almost) right ...
And girl give me that peel

And most of its uses are also correct, I mean that if a stupid happens when these terrible coughing throat clearing and asks: What do you do, well you can tell MONDA A, Cos these coughing to clear the chest or throat of mucus:-D

Well, I'm going

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